Railway cancellations thread

Has someone been a naughty boy and got the previous thread took off

Lets not name names but can I ask?

Does the person concerned have the same initials as...........Oliver Cromwell?

or it could be the person with the same initials as.......... Emma McCune

Handsomeminer

Yes your friend whups. He made a straight from the gutter comment re myself and old codger. Another example of his ignorant personae.

even tho it is true & speaking of the gutter gaffer isnt that where you get your so-called facts from . shows how childish you really are .

Gaffer

They don't like being told facts!

we dont like being lied too

Gaffer doesn't tell lies

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15026)
"Gaffer doesn't tell lies"

I 100% agree with you on that

But, and its a gigantic but, but more often than not he only gives one side to a story.
Usually the one that suits his agenda, or, political bias
That apart, overall what Ive seen on this forum, I think he is a very intelligent, and polite person.

Cheshire Puss:

"but more often than not he only gives one side to a story.
Usually the one that suits his agenda, or, political bias"

I don't think that is the case, Gaffer just posts facts, in 'fact' I don't know what Gaffer's agenda and political biases are

TTS

When I became a non executive director at the hospital trust in Wigan my two references were from a chief executive and a trades union district secretary. That came from being trusted by both sides over a long career as a manufacturing director.

Tommy.
I'm not disputing the fact that he posts facts.
I'm just saying that sometimes he only posts one side to a story.

A typical recent example which he quoted from a magazine / newspaper article was about a miner who sadly lost his life whilst working through the strike. No mention of the striking miner who sadly lost his life whilst on picket duty, until Whups mentioned it.

Bloomin Eck whups what have you said to upset the dolly sisters

ME names not Dolly

CC

I posted a piece by an Oxford professor and a link to the full article. He was outlining the reasons why the miner’s strike failed. One of his comments covered the death of a South Wales taxi driver who was taking a working miner to the local colliery. The professor believed that the moral outrage following the death of the taxi driver had a negative effect on the strike.
I made no alterations to the professor’s text it was lifted straight from the New Statesman a Labour supporting journal.

South Wales

Well done captain google

Gaffer.
Maybe in the future you can add your own opinion on what you have quoted from the press. ( and you must hold the record for press quotes! ) Instead of just posting a journalists opinion that you happen to agree with.

Cheshirecat. If Gaffer, as you suggest, "posts journalist's opinions that he happens to agree with", is he not simultaneously expressing his own opinion by doing so? Laaaaike?

many a time his so called facts are wrong & in all cases he tries to turn it around in his favout a typical example was the mineworkers pension where he got it massively wrong on claiming that the miners were getting a "good deal" by having a 70%- 30% split in their favour . that has not been the case as far back as 1994 with the then PM john major guaranteeing a pension for miners but at a 50% split of the profits on the mps . me & tonker tried to tell him he was wrong & he put dats on that were out of date & would,nt accept he was wrong . there has been many other cases that are in doubt & that,s why i say he,s not always right .

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Whups

It wasn’t the death of a working miner. It was the death of a taxi driver. Two striking miners were convicted of manslaughter. They dropped concrete blocks onto the taxi from a road bridge killing the driver.

Whups

From what I saw in the documentary at the weekend, Thatcher and the then Tory Government had started planning after the previous Gormley led strike which defeated a Tory government that they were out for revenge with an immdiate plan to kill off the mining industry and the militant NUM by training certain Police forces like the Metroplitan Police trained storm troopers and the non-mining areas in army type tactics, use of the army which I have been told included the SAS, stockpiling coal, controlling the media etc, and even perlonging the strike to make mining families and communities suffer and weaken the solidarity of those on strike.

And as much as my Wife and I had given 100% support of the strike as previously stated, we had enough sense to realised that that the tactics of Scargill and his National Excutive left a lot to be desired, especially the decision to not hold a national ballot which was put across to the general public by the Tory controlled press as being undemocratic and all Scargill was interested in was the downfall of a elected government.

You only had to listen to some of the comments of striking miners who after the strike realised that the strike has acheived nothing except a year or so of poverty and hardship for themselves and their families together with the loss of small businesses in mining communities from which many have never recovered even after so many years.

i lost everything to that strike & it was,nt fun breaking up old furniture to get some warmth for the fire & with 2 pensioners in tow while a scab across the road was getting his 10 bags delivered in novembertime . try giving that a 100 % .

Captain Google and Corpral Codger talk sh*te

that,s wot sacrifice is all about todger & those with backbone stuck it out to the finish . and we were right wer,nt we . how many pits are left ? .

Posted by: tonker (27729) [View tonker's page]
"Cheshirecat. If Gaffer, as you suggest, "posts journalist's opinions that he happens to agree with", is he not simultaneously expressing his own opinion by doing so? Laaaaike?"

In a thinly veiled way its quite possible? Only he can answer that question?
Maybe a bit more transparency is needed.

Well, if I were Gaffer, I'd only "post journalist's opinions that I happened to disagree with" just to start an argument.
Even if it was just with myself.

Handsomeminer

At least your mate Whups has given a insight of how the ending of the strike affected him, but yourself as usual had to resort to a sh*te comment.

A bit of debate from you on a topic would be a nice change!

A bit of sense from you would be nice and unusual